TRL Wank

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TRL, or Total Request Live, is a chat show on MTV that often features crowd reactions and signs. In February 2004, Elijah Wood, Dominic Monaghan, Sean Astin, and Billy Boyd appeared on the show, and noticed the staff of the tongue-in-cheek website The Nancing Pony in the crowd holding parody signs reading "Elijah, get a new jacket," "Give us Sir Ian's #," and, famously, "DOM + ELIJAH 4-EVAH." (Another sign, "Shag me Billy," became a joke within the cast for a few weeks, with Elijah approaching one of the Pony staff members in March: "Hey, aren't you that 'Shag Billy' girl?")

The cameramen for the show apparently found this interesting enough to show feature a number of close-ups during the half-hour show. For viewers watching at home, especially the tinhats, this spawned a massive outrage.

Ms. A, the self-appointed leader of the Domlijah movement, started a flame-war with the site's maintainers, YMG and SB, on Livejournal. As the many followers and skeptics of Ms. A joined the fray, the situation grew out of hand quickly:

The Posts

anghockey 2004-03-13 16:36

Thanks for posting those! You wouldn't happen to know where I could find higher quality ones? I was there, and recognized myself. I'm standing outsite holding up a www.nancingpony.com sign, and my friends are all there holding up signs ("Dom+Lijah 4-Evah", "Shag me Billy^Lijah", "Get a new jacket", "Can we have Sir Ian's phone number", "We sold your underwear on e-bay"). Anyways, we were wondering so we could post caps on The Nancing Pony Thanks, dearie!


msallegro 2004-03-13 16:39 So *you* guys were the ones with the Domlijah sign? What on earth possessed you to do something that rude and inappropriate?


anghockey 2004-03-13 16:40 the devil


msallegro 2004-03-13 16:44 Oh, come on. Take some responsibility. What you did was completely out of line.


under_pressure 2004-03-13 16:46 Specifically, that was my sign. (And the reverse was the Jacket sign.) The reason we did it is because when we met them originally we had only been planning to stand outside, and our signs didn't get used. So we decided to use it again. And we want attention. (And it worked, so, no complaints.) And I find it much less rude than many of the other slobbering OMG UR SO HOTTT LYK SOOO KUte! signs.


msallegro 2004-03-13 16:48 So you think it's perfectly fine to confront Elijah with that, not to mention getting that message out to the few million people who watch that show?

Put yourself in Elijah's place, and think about how that must have made him feel.


jellybean 2004-03-13 18:09 Seeing as he went onto Graham Norton and BROUGHT UP the subject of the slash manipulation pix HIMSELF, without any prompting from Mr Norton, I'm sure he cant be that bothered.


msallegro 2004-03-13 18:15 This has NOTHING TO DO WITH SLASH. It has to do with the very real possibility that Elijah and Dom are actually dating and are not yet out about that.

BTW, those shows are pre-rehearsed, in case you didn't know. Note that Graham had those pics already set up on a separate page right there ready to go. Elijah knew they'd be discussing that. Graham always picks some bizarre site to tease his guests with, and I'm sure he consulted with Elijah prior to the show about which site to use.


under_pressure 2004-03-13 17:06 Pardon mon Francais, but I don't think he gave a flying fuck. And he rather liked our other signs, and commented on them to us on previous occasions. Don't be presumtuous.

Also, I'd hate to clue you in, but most people watching that show wouldn't even get that it's a slashy sign. Maybe the hundred or less watching solely for Elijah might figure it out, however, by the next day, everyone else would have forgotten. The world does not revolve around Elijah Wood or Lord of the Rings.


msallegro 2004-03-13 17:11 Oh, he did comment about a Dom/Elijah sign? So you've confronted him with this before? Do you understand that this has nothing to do with slash?

A hundred or so less watching just for Elijah? Honey, you couldn't be more wrong. There were at least a thousand people just standing outside the studio. I get up to 12,000 hits a day on the Elijah portions of my site. You'd think a billion in box office and 11 Oscars just *might* clue you in to the fact that people pay attention to these movies and the people in them.

It's a matter of respect, and it's obvious you have none. If Elijah wanted to talk about his relationship to a million TRL viewers, he would. It's not up to you to do it for him.


under_pressure 2004-03-13 17:22 Not that one specifically, but he finds us amusing. And NO ONE REALLY CARES!

Honestly! You're the only person who still finds it offensive. I can't help it if you're a homophobe. I'll put it as someone else has, if someone had made a "lij + britney" no one would have cared.


msallegro 2004-03-13 17:28 It has nothing to do with being a homophobe, good lord. It has to do with confronting Elijah with something that he has not chosen to publicly talk about.


under_pressure 2004-03-13 17:23 There were at least a thousand people just standing outside the studio. You're wrong, I was there. Maybe 200. And most of them were wondering who was on TRL.


msallegro 2004-03-13 17:46 Uh huh. Whatever.

The point is, your little message got out to a shitload of people. Do you realize the camera zoomed in on your sign? It was clear as day to a million viewers. And that big ol' heart you drew on the sign made it plenty obvious what it was about.

Maybe you think it's just a big joke, but honestly, please put yourself in Elijah's shoes. If he and Dom really are dating, you've just chosen to publicly confront him with something he has yet to publicly admit to, and you've just added one more layer of bullshit he has to navigate because of that. There is a vast, vast difference between talking about this in private places or among friends and shoving that in his face.


typofrog 2004-03-13 17:55 But...but I thought he wanted to come out. Doesn't he? I'm SO CONFUSED.


msallegro 2004-03-13 18:09 When he's in a position to do so, probably, yes. But he's not in that position right now and probably won't be for a while yet. And it has nothing to do with contracts or goons or any of that nonsense, but with not making a big deal about things. This is the guy who didn't even want to talk onstage at the TORN party because he didn't want to take any spotlight away from the winners onstage with him. You honestly think he's going to make a big deal about coming out a mere couple of weeks after the Oscars, and when he's in the middle of doing press for another movie, which he's not even the star of? Give the man a break.

Look, I realize you think this is all hysterically funny, and you're trying to make a point because you don't think any of this is true. But the point is, you don't know that it's not, you have no idea whatsoever what kind of a situation they really could be in, or what kind of concerns they have to deal with, and it's *not your choice* to confront them with this before they've made the decision to talk about it publicly themselves. Obviously you don't see the difference between me and my friends talking about this in relatively private places, and you shoving this in his face, but there IS a difference. Have some fucking class.


sushiinthealley 2004-03-13 18:16 Didn't you once say "I'd like to bend Elijah over and make him see God?" Now that's classy, MsA!

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